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  • It says on here that adrien and marinette are middle schoolers, they're not. in the episode "the pharoh" Allyiah says that she found a 10th grade hostory book, that means a sophmore in high school.

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    • I think they are at least 14-15 years old.

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    • Who do you think is older. Adrien or Marinette? I personally think Adrien is older. In their school, they are roughly 13-15!

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    • 13 to 14 at the beginning. 15 at later points in Season 1. I'm saying thirteen to fourteen there, at fifteen later on.

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    • In marinette's info page it says she is 13-15 years old.

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    • What happened here? it looks like something has glitched! :/

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    • Given that Alix was celebrating her 15th birthday in Timebreaker and Alix, Marinette and Adrien are in the same class I think it's safe to say they are about 15 from start to finish of season 1.

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    • Oh but if it was season lets say 4 would they graduate from there school 

      Please say no

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    • College in France is considered middle school whereas Lycee is high school. There are inconsistencies between the English and French dubs. The only certainty that we have been given is that they are between the ages of 13 and 15. This comes directly from the ML Tumblr.

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    • Thank you I nealy had a heart attack then (im so emotional)

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    • marinette is 14 years old. In season 2 on her birthday episode, it shows 14 candles on the cake. I like to think adriens one year older so im guessing he's 15.

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    • In Timebreaker Alix turned 15.


      However in The Befana, there are 14 candles on Marinette's cake.

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    • Marinette is 14. In the episode "The Befana", Tom states that Marinette is 14.

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    • Oh god I thought that Marinette was like 16... Everything I believe in now is a lie XD

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    • In S2 Ep4 'The Befana' we find out Marinette is 14 when Tom Dupain states in a very simple sentence "She's 14." This episode takes place on Marinettes birthday, which means that she was 13 in S1 and will be 14 for the remainder of S2. I find this confusing since Alix is in the same class and she's 15? This wouldn't work because the whole point of a school year is to group up people of the same age. So either Alix should be in the year above or Marinette should be in the year below, depending on the ages of the other classmates.

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    • Yeah, it's a total shock to me to find out she's been 13 all this time (until S2 Ep4 'The Befana'). Here all along I'd been thinking both Mari and Adrien were 15.

      Thirteen is pretty young to be a superhero. I think even Robin the Boy Wonder and Spider-Man started at no younger than 14-15.

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    • Positronic wrote:
      Yeah, it's a total shock to me to find out she's been 13 all this time (until S2 Ep4 'The Befana').

      Here all along I'd been thinking both Mari and Adrien were 15.

      Thirteen is pretty young to be a superhero. I think even Robin the Boy Wonder and Spider-Man started at no younger than 14-15.

      Actually Dick Greyson started as Robin at 11. 

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    • Andrea Grace 1432 wrote:
      It says on here that adrien and marinette are middle schoolers, they're not. in the episode "the pharoh" Allyiah says that she found a 10th grade hostory book, that means a sophmore in high school.

      They say that she's in college but considering that they also said she's in tenth grade. L.et's assume alya made a slip-up and meant 10th grade. Then she'd be in her last year of college,  if alya realy did mean 10 grade (which would be weird because they don't have grades in france) it wouldn't be possible becausethat would make them in their last  year of college which also isn't possible.

      So if i completly ignore what Alya said and use what the wikia says she could be anywhere from her 2nd year at college (grade 8 for us here in the U.S) to her 1st year at lycee(grade 11) and the possibility of her being in lycee is only there if her birthday is late in the year which we already know can't be true because she celebrated her birthday in "La Befana" and it wasn't near winter (in fact it was throughout the school year). This means that she could be any where from her 2nd year at college to her last year at college.

      So if we went off evidence from season one (and the wikia pages) only That'd be correct

      But sadly (or not sadly) season two has started to air and we have some spoilers which prove that Marinette can't be in her fnal year of college. Juleka's brother (Luka) is said to be a year older than Juleka (who is the same age as Marinette) and is attending their school but is not in their class because he's year ahead of them (DUH). It wouldn't be possible for Marinette to be in her final year of college because the Luka wouldn't be able to be a year ahead of them but at their school because their school is a college and wwouldn't have Luka's grade. This shows us shows us that Marinette is in either her 2nd or her 3rd year at college.

      Yep Almost done now. ALL THIS MEANS THAT MARINETTE (and all of her class actually)(unless someone was held back a grade)(wouldn't put it past you Kim!) ARE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 13 AND 14 YEARS OLD (well 12 would work too if someone had a late birthday, wait no christmas has already passed it's the new year now) so yeah everybody is at least 13

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    • Posiblue wrote:
      Positronic wrote:
      Yeah, it's a total shock to me to find out she's been 13 all this time (until S2 Ep4 'The Befana').

      Here all along I'd been thinking both Mari and Adrien were 15.

      Thirteen is pretty young to be a superhero. I think even Robin the Boy Wonder and Spider-Man started at no younger than 14-15.

      Actually Dick Greyson started as Robin at 11.


      I'm curious to know what reference you're basing that on. I do know that various retellings of DC origin stories have changed certain details over time with retellings, so the characters' histories aren't always 100% consistent. I'm just wondering, specifically, which version of the story that reference comes from. I was just basing my estimate on visual reference, guessing by appearance, and the fact that he'd spent some time working with his acrobat parents in their circus act, but of course the visual appearance of Dick Grayson has also changed over time, in various iterations of his origin story. Yours would specifically place Grayson as a grade-schooler, by the time he's adopted by Bruce Wayne as his legal guardian.

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    • @MyJustPeachyLife - In France, the word "College" doesn't refer to a post-secondary educational institution. College Francoise Dupont in Paris is the equivalent of "high school" in America.

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    • Sry Didn't realize. I was going off this chart

      Collège
      Age Name Abbreviation
      11–12 Sixième 6e
      12–13 Cinquième 5e
      13–14 Quatrième 4e
      14–15 Troisième 3e

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    • In the newest dubbed episode,her dad says she's 14.

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    • Alix is 15, Marinette is 14, and Adrien is either 14 or 15 as we know he's already had his birthday. There is a slight possibility that because of Nathalie's tutoring that Adrien skipped several grades, but it is doubtful that a 12-year-old would (A) have the sense of justice Adrien has, (B) not be completely destroyed by the loss of his mother, (C) get hurt so much in a fight without running away, (D) be as tall as he currently is. My last point can be argued against as Gabriel is very tall, but my argument for Adrien not being 12 still stands.

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    • Positronic wrote:
      @MyJustPeachyLife - In France, the word "College" doesn't refer to a post-secondary educational institution. College Francoise Dupont in Paris is the equivalent of "high school" in America.

      It's the equivalent of middle school in America plus the first year of high school.

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    • Princess of Harte wrote:
      Positronic wrote:
      @MyJustPeachyLife - In France, the word "College" doesn't refer to a post-secondary educational institution. College Francoise Dupont in Paris is the equivalent of "high school" in America.
      It's the equivalent of middle school in America plus the first year of high school.


      I've never been clear on the whole concept of "middle school". When I went to school, I went from grade school or primary school (Grades 1 through 8) to high school (Grades 9 through 12) -- but those were private schools, not part of the state public school system. I don't know that there's as yet any consistency nationally to that in the US, although I realize other countries group grade levels into different schools.

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    • So if they were in America what grade would they be in? If Alix is 15 and Marinette is 14 and Adrian is either 14 or 15 the would be a freshman in highschool right? Cause Adrian is probably 15 because of his height and Marinette could have a late birthday causing her to be one of the youngest in her grade.

      And do we know the exact dates for their birthday? Because Marinette gave Adrien a scarf and he wore it the next day so it might have been in the fall. Which wouldn't makes sense cause Marinette's birthday should have been in the spring because this came after the Christmas special. So that doesnt work because she has to be born later?

      Not sure....someone help me out!!

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    • His height doesnt count lol because boys are usually taller than the girls @.@

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    • in the 2nd season episode 10 alya says that they have to find someone who is in college like them

      but in the 1st season alya found a textbook from the 10th grade 

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    • Reevam wrote:
      in the 2nd season episode 10 alya says that they have to find someone who is in college like them

      but in the 1st season alya found a textbook from the 10th grade 


      What Alya said was collège, which is different than the American word college. Collège is a school in France for ages generally around 120-15, and the American equivalent being somewhere within Middle School/Junior High School to early High School.

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    • Asub9 wrote:
      So if they were in America what grade would they be in? If Alix is 15 and Marinette is 14 and Adrian is either 14 or 15 the would be a freshman in highschool right? Cause Adrian is probably 15 because of his height and Marinette could have a late birthday causing her to be one of the youngest in her grade.

      And do we know the exact dates for their birthday? Because Marinette gave Adrien a scarf and he wore it the next day so it might have been in the fall. Which wouldn't makes sense cause Marinette's birthday should have been in the spring because this came after the Christmas special. So that doesnt work because she has to be born later?

      Not sure....someone help me out!!

      Also for me, Adrien is bigger than Marinette

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    • Height means nothing when it comes to age. Master Fu is 186 and shorter than Marinette. Alix is 15 and currently the oldest student in the class as far as we know. Adrien could've turned 13 in the Bubbler since we aren't given an age.

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    • Okay so some people seem to have many mixed information so here it goes:

      Collège in France is neither college/university nor is it high school. It's middle school (or junior high? I'm not super familiar with the US school system).

      Now, the table present here IS correct: 13-14 are in 4e; 14-15 are in 3e. It's also important to now that the school year isn't organized like in the US. The ages in which a student is placed in a certain grade aren't the same ones in France

      Indeed, if we take the classe of 3e for example, the students that turn 14 between the 1st of january and the 31st of December are grouped in the same class generation. That means that you could have turned 14 the 2nd of february and be in the same class as a kid turning 14 the 15th of December. You wouldn't however be sharing the same class as a kid that turned 14 the next year, since they would be placed a grade below you.

      Based on the fact that Marinette turned 14 (like I don't think they would have messed that up), Alix's situation does pose a problem. It could be of course that Alix repeated a year (something more common in France than in other countries I believe), explaining why she is a year older than everybody else. Otherwise it makes no sense as to why she turned 15 so early in a year and is still in college (middle school) and not lycée (high school).

      In any case, Adrien should have celebrated his 14th birthday, if we are keeping to the logic of the French school system.

      What I'm curious about is Juleka's older brother. Like how much older are we talking about? He could be like Alix and repeated a year... We need more info about that to really know where the heck this kids are in the school system and how old they really are.

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    • The age difference between Alix and Marienette could just be the variation in the grade. I know that in the US, sometimes kids are a year older than their classmates because their parents chose to wait to send them to school and the way their birthdays turned out. I don’t know for France, however.

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    • As old as the plot needs them to be.

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    • There is noooo way that Marinette and Adrien were 13 all this time. Im sure that they are 16-18 rn.

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    • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      There is noooo way that Marinette and Adrien were 13 all this time. Im sure that they are 16-18 rn.



      Yeah no... there's noooo way they are 16-18. They would be in lycee (high school) and they aren't. Otherwise they repeated two years at least.

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    • The episode "Befana" officially confirmed that Marinette was 13 in all of Season 1. She turned 14 in that episode. Cat Noir/Adrien's real age hasn't been released, but I'd guess he was 14 in Season 1 and at some point turns 15 in second season? Bubbler already had Adrien's birthday, so I doubt they'll do another episode like that unless something really big happens like "major Adrienette" or something but idk we'll see. He's definitely older than her, though; I'll at least say that.

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    • I’d assume Adrien turned 14 in the Bubbler and Marinette turned 14 in Befana

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    • Delphi of Pyrrhia wrote: I’d assume Adrien turned 14 in the Bubbler and Marinette turned 14 in Befana

      Probably.

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    • I just love how into this we are..😂😂

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    • Asub9 wrote:

      I just love how into this we are..😂😂

      yeeahhh ^-^

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    • didn't they mention at some part in season 2 that they were in Collage or did I imagine that?

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    • They say they're in Collège, which in France is ages 11-15, with Marinette being 14 as of Befana. The English dub says that they're in 10th Grade, but I believe the French says 9th, which places them in the 14-15 y/o class.

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    • So they're basically something around 14 yrs old.

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    • Delphi of Pyrrhia wrote: So they're basically something around 14 yrs old.

      yep.

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    • Yay we finally got it!!

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    • yeah cuz this discussion has been going on for over a year now. XD

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    • XD Ikr

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    • You know what is crazy? Someone asked about it Astruc himself. That Marinette just turned 14 and Alix was 15 and if that is a miatake. You know what he said? That this is bot a mistake and asked to stop care about the ages, because it is not something , that makes interesting story. What? It changes whole new perspective on the characters behaviour.

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    • yeah.. it kinda explains some of Mari's behavior. She acts sorta immature a lot, though as Ladybug she seems much older. Maybe because of Tikki lol

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    • Wow, Mari is only 14, SHE WAS A SUPER HERO AT 13?! Oh my gosh... I CANNOT get over the fact she's just a kid. I thought she would at least be 15 ;-;

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    • Sailor Mars wrote: Wow, Mari is only 14, SHE WAS A SUPER HERO AT 13?! Oh my gosh... I CANNOT get over the fact she's just a kid. I thought she would at least be 15 ;-;

      I know, it's so hard to believe!!

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    • I think Marinette is 14 cause in The Befana, it was here birthday, and she was turning 14.

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    • Cupnny wrote:
      I think Marinette is 14 cause in The Befana, it was here birthday, and she was turning 14.

      She turned 14 in that episode, but since Befana is a Season 2 episode, that means she was 13 in all of Season 1.

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    • OK. I've never noticed that

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    • Adrien is 14 because in season 2 episode 11 Adrien’s father says over the phone to Adrien’s bodyguard,”Don’t tell me it’s that hard to keep an eye on a 14 year old boy.”

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    • Marinette was born on January 27 confirmed by Thomas Arstruc, Adrien was born on September 25 confirmed too

      but he dosen't confirmed the year

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    • I think that in the grade of Marinette and Adrien their agruped bye 13-15 years old's

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    • In season one, Marinette is 13 and Adrien turns 14 in The Bubbler. In season two, Marinette turns fourteen in Befana.

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    • That means Adrien is older than mari

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    • Yep, but only by about seven/eight months. 

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    • I ges so

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    • I have a doubt, If Marinette was 13 in season 1, In the webisode My Birthday Party Marinette is turning 13.So was Marinette 12 when she first became Ladybug.

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    • Silverstar6789 wrote: I have a doubt, If Marinette was 13 in season 1, In the webisode My Birthday Party Marinette is turning 13.So was Marinette 12 when she first became Ladybug.

      Oh my gosh...

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    • Silverstar6789 wrote: I have a doubt, If Marinette was 13 in season 1, In the webisode My Birthday Party Marinette is turning 13.So was Marinette 12 when she first became Ladybug.

      That's hard to believe... xD

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    • Maybe the webisodes are in, like, an alternate timeline or something? 

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    • Jeanne68 wrote: Maybe the webisodes are in, like, an alternate timeline or something? 

      Yeah, that would make more sense than Marinette having 2 birthdays meaning that over a year had passed and therefore she moved up a grade.

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    • I just want to state that in once of the episodes in season 2 (i forgot which once exactly) Mr. Agreste specifically states that Adrien is "a fourteen year old boy." In previous episodes, we are told marinette is also 14, so therefore both Adrien and Marinette are 14.

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    • That was in Gorizilla

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    • thanks

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    • We can't jump to conclusions based on Alix. She could've failed a year and had to repeat and be older than classmates. The 14 candles, if anyone has a screenshot, is a good guide for Marinette.

      As for Adrien, could go either way. For all I know he's 13 and skipped ahead a year. You need direct candle measurement or we know nothing.

      Can someone provide citations from the "birthday episodes" where Marinette presumably gets older?

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    • Mari: 14 candles in Befana and I think staff confirmed.

      Adrien: 14 in Gorizilla as said by Gabriel.

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    • 14 candles in Befana
      14 Candles




      Gorizilla/Transcript wrote:
      Gabriel: (on the phone as a voicemail) What have you done? Where's Adrien? Don't tell me it's that hard to keep an eye on a fourteen-year-old boy!

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    • So since Adrien is 14 in s2 just like Marinette, that probably means he was 13 at some point in season 1-2 (unsure who turned 14 first...) and possibly 12 in the prequel like Marinette was before episode 9 My Birthday Party

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    • Well Bubbler was Adriens birthday right? So before that he would've been 13.

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    • Yup

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    • Tycio wrote: So since Adrien is 14 in s2 just like Marinette, that probably means he was 13 at some point in season 1-2 (unsure who turned 14 first...) and possibly 12 in the prequel like Marinette was before episode 9 My Birthday Party

      It’s also possible that My Birthday Party is planning for Befana, or that it takes place in an alternate timeline, because if she has had 2 birthdays over the course of the series tha would mean over 1 year has passed, meaning that she should have advanced a school year and stuff.

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    • Do we know for sure they haven't advanced a school year? Added Bubbler note to Adrien's page, if he was 14 after that, he must've been 13 before it. I checked gallery but didn't see any cakes or candles, anyone recall any specific numerical significance in that episode?

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    • Tycio wrote: Do we know for sure they haven't advanced a school year? Added Bubbler note to Adrien's page, if he was 14 after that, he must've been 13 before it. I checked gallery but didn't see any cakes or candles, anyone recall any specific numerical significance in that episode?

      We don’t know for sure, but their teachers haven’t changed and the class is the same, and there were no summer vacation episodes, or a first day of school in the new year episode.

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    • Getting back to the OP:

      Allyiah says that she found a 10th grade hostory book, that means a sophmore in high school.

      What is the exact quote? I remember this but can't remember what episode it was in. I'm curious if the French dialogue and English translation are equivalent.

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    • Tycio wrote: Getting back to the OP:

      Allyiah says that she found a 10th grade hostory book, that means a sophmore in high school.

      What is the exact quote? I remember this but can't remember what episode it was in. I'm curious if the French dialogue and English translation are equivalent.

      It was in the episode "The Pharaoh". I think the quote was "Freak out! What you've got here is no ordinary book. It's a tenth grade history book! And I should know because I have this very same book! ..." (just watched that episode on the 21st lol since it happened then)

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    • Chaton15 wrote:

      Tycio wrote: Getting back to the OP:

      Allyiah says that she found a 10th grade hostory book, that means a sophmore in high school.

      What is the exact quote? I remember this but can't remember what episode it was in. I'm curious if the French dialogue and English translation are equivalent.

      It was in the episode "The Pharaoh". I think the quote was "Freak out! What you've got here is no ordinary book. It's a tenth grade history book! And I should know because I have this very same book! ..." (just watched that episode on the 21st lol since it happened then)

      Yeah, Chaton is right!

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    • One point worth observing: having a 10th grade history book doesn't necessarily mean that you're in the 10th grade or ~15 years old. It is possible to be skipped ahead to higher level courses if you are smarter, or to take courses from previous grades.

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    • We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.

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    • Where are you getting confirmed 14 in Bubbler? All I know is he had a birthday then and he was 14 by Gorizilla.

      For all we know, Bubbler was 12>13 and 13>14 happened at a later time.

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    • Bubbler was the only episode with his birthday. I just thought it would make sense.

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    • Okay, so I did some research on the French Education system (see link below) and I think I figured it out. According to the website I was looking at, Middle School in France has 4 grade levels (6-9). 

      However, in the English dub of "The Pharoah", Alya finds a tenth-grade history book that belongs to Marinette/Ladybug. But, the English dub of the show is broadcasted by the UK. If you look at the link I included below, 10th grade in the UK is the equivalent of 9th grade in France which is equivalent to 9th grade in America.

      Therefore, Mari and her friends are in junior high in France, but if you look at it from the perspective of the American educational system, they would be freshmen in high school. Hopefully this helps! 

      https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-culture/the-french-school-system-explained  

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    • Fangirlingsince2000 wrote: Okay, so I did some research on the French Education system (see link below) and I think I figured it out. According to the website I was looking at, Middle School in France has 4 grade levels (6-9). 

      However, in the English dub of "The Pharoah", Alya finds a tenth-grade history book that belongs to Marinette/Ladybug. But, the English dub of the show is broadcasted by the UK. If you look at the link I included below, 10th grade in the UK is the equivalent of 9th grade in France which is equivalent to 9th grade in America.

      Therefore, Mari and her friends are in junior high in France, but if you look at it from the perspective of the American educational system, they would be freshmen in high school. Hopefully this helps! 

      https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-culture/the-french-school-system-explained  

      It did, thanks! ^.^

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    • Fangirlingsince2000 wrote: Therefore, Mari and her friends are in junior high in France, but if you look at it from the perspective of the American educational system, they would be freshmen in high school. Hopefully this helps! 

      https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-culture/the-french-school-system-explained  

      Ok, this all makes more sense now. But I'm still amazed Mari (and Adrien) are only 14 I mean reall-

      I should probably stop before I go on a 6 page rant... XDD

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    • I guess you could start a new thread about it if you want to rant long. Are they too tall to be that age?

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    • Well... to be in 10th grade you would have to at least be 14.. In the episode "Gorizilla" Mr. Agrest was talking to Adriens bodyguard and states Adrien as a 14 year old boy. Since Marinettes birthday has already passed (if you have watched season 1&2) so.. I believe Marionette is already 15, but she might be 13 turning 14? But I believe Marinette is older.

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    • Nevermind apparently she was 13 turning 14. Maybe she went up a year :/ Which makes Adrein older

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    • Since Marinette had 14 candles on her cake in Befana, she was 13 turning 14, so it would make sense for her to be in La quatrième using the french school system, which is the equivalent to 8th grade in the US.

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    • You can be 12 and in grade 10 if you skip, so we need to go by direct statements or candle numbers.

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    • In Befana, season 2, It's Marinette's birthday and she's turning 14.

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    • Cutehammy wrote: In the episode "The Befana", Tom states that Marinette is 14.

      Does anyone know the exact minute/second mark this happens? Also looking for an exact quote both in English and in the original French to see if it might've been changed.

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    • Tycio wrote:

      Cutehammy wrote: In the episode "The Befana", Tom states that Marinette is 14.

      Does anyone know the exact minute/second mark this happens? Also looking for an exact quote both in English and in the original French to see if it might've been changed.

      I don't know the exact minute, but it's when Gina told her that she was going to take her to the park and zoo and stuff, and Tom leaned over and whispered, "She's 14."

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    • That sounds familiar. Guess I'm wondering if there was a coordinate "elle a quatorze" in the original source.

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    • Tycio wrote: That sounds familiar. Guess I'm wondering if there was a coordinate "elle a quatorze" in the original source.

      Probably.

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    • Both of them are 14. 

      In France, middle school is called college and lasts 4 years. The first level is 6eme, the second level is 5eme, the third level is 4eme, and the fourth is 3eme. 6eme is for 11-12, 5eme is for 12-13, 4eme is for 13-14, 5eme is for 14-15. 

      Adrien was 13 and turned 14 in The Bubbler, the first episode. In Gorizilla, Gabriel shouts at Adrien' s bodyguard, "how hard is it to keep track of a 14 year old boy?" So he hasn' t had any off-screen birthdays since.

      Marinette was 13 for all of season one, but in Befana, she turns 14. Adrien is older than her, but they are both 14. They have one year of college left, not including 4eme. 

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    • Lepetitpaon wrote: Both of them are 14. 

      In France, middle school is called college and lasts 4 years. The first level is 6eme, the second level is 5eme, the third level is 4eme, and the fourth is 3eme. 6eme is for 11-12, 5eme is for 12-13, 4eme is for 13-14, 5eme is for 14-15. 

      Adrien was 13 and turned 14 in The Bubbler, the first episode. In Gorizilla, Gabriel shouts at Adrien' s bodyguard, "how hard is it to keep track of a 14 year old boy?" So he hasn' t had any off-screen birthdays since.

      Marinette was 13 for all of season one, but in Befana, she turns 14. Adrien is older than her, but they are both 14. They have one year of college left, not including 4eme. 

      Yep, that's it. Now that we officially know, I'm not sure if this discussion should continue, but I can't do anything, so . . .

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    • Chaton15 wrote:

      Lepetitpaon wrote: Both of them are 14. 

      In France, middle school is called college and lasts 4 years. The first level is 6eme, the second level is 5eme, the third level is 4eme, and the fourth is 3eme. 6eme is for 11-12, 5eme is for 12-13, 4eme is for 13-14, 5eme is for 14-15. 

      Adrien was 13 and turned 14 in The Bubbler, the first episode. In Gorizilla, Gabriel shouts at Adrien' s bodyguard, "how hard is it to keep track of a 14 year old boy?" So he hasn' t had any off-screen birthdays since.

      Marinette was 13 for all of season one, but in Befana, she turns 14. Adrien is older than her, but they are both 14. They have one year of college left, not including 4eme. 

      Yep, that's it. Now that we officially know, I'm not sure if this discussion should continue, but I can't do anything, so . . .

      Lol, that's what I've been thinking, but I don't think it's really breaking any rule.

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    • HypedHypnos wrote: Lol, that's what I've been thinking, but I don't think it's really breaking any rule.

      Someone once started a discussion about Gabriel's being Hawk Moth, and it's been stopped because we now know the absolute answer. I was thinking maybe we should do the same here. But you're right; no rules are being broken.

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    • Chaton15 wrote:

      HypedHypnos wrote: Lol, that's what I've been thinking, but I don't think it's really breaking any rule.

      Someone once started a discussion about Gabriel's being Hawk Moth, and it's been stopped because we now know the absolute answer. I was thinking maybe we should do the same here. But you're right; no rules are being broken.

      If anyone is still confused over Adrien and Marinette's ages, can someone edit their pages to say 14 instead of 13-15? 

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    • I'm pretty sure only a staff member can edit those sections, but I might be wrong. We could ask someone.

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    • What do you mean? It says their ages are 14 on their infoboxes.

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    • Never mind, I think I saw Marinette's infobox before Befana aired and I was recalling that

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    • Ok.

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    • HypedHypnos wrote: What do you mean? It says their ages are 14 on their infoboxes.

      Sorry, I haven't checked their infoboxes in a while, and still hadn't when I wrote that.

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    • Oceanofstxrs wrote:
      Jeanne68 wrote:
      Maybe the webisodes are in, like, an alternate timeline or something? 
      I wouldn't count the webisodes as being canon. They had a Halloween-themed episode, but France doesn't really celebrate Halloween. Instead, they have their own holiday.

      It doesn't matter. Paris in Miracolous is very multicultural place and is shown as that kind of since the very begining. Halloween being not traditional to France has nothing to do with it. 

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    • If they're 14 in seasons 1 & 2, they're 15 in season 3

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    • not unless there is a another birthday episode

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    • Adrien had his 14th birthday shortly after the beginning of the school year (in "The Bubbler"), Marinette later (in "Befana"). Before there is a 15th birthday, a new school year has to start.

      There is no information about how much time has passed in the first two seasons. In any case, less than a year.

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    • Oceanofstxrs wrote:

      Jeanne68 wrote:
      Maybe the webisodes are in, like, an alternate timeline or something? 

      I wouldn't count the webisodes as being canon. They had a Halloween-themed episode, but France doesn't really celebrate Halloween. Instead, they have their own holiday.

      https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-culture/halloween-in-france-toussaint " In the 1990s, young French hipsters started to have costume parties for Halloween, and some bars and restaurants took up the trend as well."

      Marinette is clearly a hipster, your theory is trounced.

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    • Do not worry. Halloween has no chance in France because it's not French.

      A few outsiders are always trying to set a trend, and businesses like to take up, because they promise additional sales. So you can always buy good pumpkins at Halloween time. But you can not really take that seriously. Halloween is a real celebration only in the English-speaking world.

      There may be a Halloween special in MLB. But that's not because then in Paris is really celebrated, but because English-speaking fans wish that happens.

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    • Halloween is "real" in France too, even if it is less celebrated. Marinette is an outsider, so a more comprehensive justification would be needed to try and de-canonize the shorts.

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    • What can I say? Do you live in France?   :-)

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    • Tycio wrote:
      Halloween is "real" in France too, even if it is less celebrated. Marinette is an outsider, so a more comprehensive justification would be needed to try and de-canonize the shorts.

      What do you mean by "Marinette is an outsider"?

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    • Delphi of Pyrrhia wrote:

      Tycio wrote:
      Halloween is "real" in France too, even if it is less celebrated. Marinette is an outsider, so a more comprehensive justification would be needed to try and de-canonize the shorts.

      What do you mean by "Marinette is an outsider"?

      I think she meant Marinette was half-Asian.

      Anyways, in the French Dub of Pharaoh, Alya says the textbook is a 3rd grade high school textbook, any ideas of what this could mean?

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    • SugarCubeTikki456 wrote:

      Anyways, in the French Dub of Pharaoh, Alya says the textbook is a 3rd grade high school textbook, any ideas of what this could mean?


      @SugarCubeTikki456 The grade levels count down in France rather than up like in the States, with Junior year being 1 and Senior year being Terminale instead of a number. That makes "3rd grade" the equivalent of 9th grade in the US, though rather than being the first year of high school, it's the last year of collège, which is the equivalent of middle school. (collège is four years long and lycée, the equivalent of high school, is only three)

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    • Feathercat wrote:

      @SugarCubeTikki456 The grade levels count down in France rather than up like in the States, with Junior year being 1 and Senior year being Terminale instead of a number. That makes "3rd grade" the equivalent of 9th grade in the US, though rather than being the first year of high school, it's the last year of collège, which is the equivalent of middle school. (collège is four years long and lycée, the equivalent of high school, is only three)

      I don’t live in the U.S. or France so I better check this one up according to the region I live in but....

      Thank you for explaining, @Feathercat!

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    • Wait a second...if Marinette and Adrien are in 9th grade in the US(Year 10 UK),according to the French dub(the official dub) so we can say that there was a dubbing error in the Pharaoh for the English Dub.

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    • Well whoops. So currently right now Marinette is 14 and Adrien is probably older than her, cause he had his birthday first

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    • In the US, 9th grade is, for the most part, 14 year-olds turning 15 during the school year, and Marinette is 13 turning 14 according to Befana. According to this source , the same is true of troisième. Does anyone have any cultural reference/context for France that could explain this?

      Also, since Luka is older than them and also goes to Collège Françoise Dupont (confirmed by Zagtoons), it would make far more sense for Marinette and Adrien to be in quatrième* and for the trosième mention in Pharaon to be a writing error. That way Luka can be in troisième and everything will make sense.

      • US 8th grade equivalent, UK Year 9 equivalent and 2nd-to-last year of collège
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    • Delphi of Pyrrhia wrote: In the US, 9th grade is, for the most part, 14 year-olds turning 15 during the school year, and Marinette is 13 turning 14 according to Befana. According to this source , the same is true of troisième. Does anyone have any cultural reference/context for France that could explain this?

      Also, since Luka is older than them and also goes to Collège Françoise Dupont (confirmed by Zagtoons), it would make far more sense for Marinette and Adrien to be in quatrième* and for the trosième mention in Pharaon to be a writing error. That way Luka can be in troisième and everything will make sense.

      • US 8th grade equivalent, UK Year 9 equivalent and 2nd-to-last year of collège

      That would make much more sense...

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    • In France, it's very common to have Collège and Lycée in the same building, that's what i had, meaning you could spend 7 years in the same building (Well, to be honest, mine had from Kindergarden to Lycée, but i arrived in 6ème). So Luka could be at his 1st or second year of Lycée (2ème/1ère), while Adrien and Marinette are in 3ème (or 4ème)

      My guess is that it's still is only one year since the beginning of the series.

      Bubbler happen early on, meaning that Adrien's birthday.

      We know that season 1 ended around February, due to Dark Cupid..

      Marinette birthday should be in March.

      The fact is, that a lot of season 2 episode happen back to back, Style queen, Wasp queen and Malediktator happened within 2 days, Catalyst and Mayura happen in 1, Anansi and Sapotis seems to happen the same week. Syren happen before Frozer, meaning it's still early on in the year to go to the ice ring.

      In Stormy weather 2, we learned that, in the french version, Aurore's average dropped by 3 point since her last "report card". We usually receive 1 or 2 every three months, since there is 3 quarter in a school year (in french, still), she had her last report card from the second quarter, or her first report card from the third quarter, placing it in early April or mid-late May.

      Since it will soon be Hawkmoth birthday (as teased in Backwarder), it's safe to assume that both of them still are 14

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    • Sounds true

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    • From what I know, they are both 14

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    • That’s true. Marinette and adrien are 14

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    • Everybody is kind of confused: Collège is from 6th to 9th, a.k.a. Last Year of ELEMENTARY and Junior High. Lycèe is actually High school.

      That being said, Mari got 14 in the episode La Befana, so she must be 13 in the beginning of the series and likely 14 in the most chronologically recent episodes... which we dunno what those episodes could be, as the series is chronologically screwed up.

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    • Yeah its kinda confusing

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    • Positronic wrote:
      Posiblue wrote:
      Positronic wrote:
      Yeah, it's a total shock to me to find out she's been 13 all this time (until S2 Ep4 'The Befana').

      Here all along I'd been thinking both Mari and Adrien were 15.

      Thirteen is pretty young to be a superhero. I think even Robin the Boy Wonder and Spider-Man started at no younger than 14-15.

      Actually Dick Greyson started as Robin at 11.

      I'm curious to know what reference you're basing that on. I do know that various retellings of DC origin stories have changed certain details over time with retellings, so the characters' histories aren't always 100% consistent. I'm just wondering, specifically, which version of the story that reference comes from. I was just basing my estimate on visual reference, guessing by appearance, and the fact that he'd spent some time working with his acrobat parents in their circus act, but of course the visual appearance of Dick Grayson has also changed over time, in various iterations of his origin story. Yours would specifically place Grayson as a grade-schooler, by the time he's adopted by Bruce Wayne as his legal guardian.

      I know this has been awhile, but the youngest I've ever heard Robin to be was nine, which was stated in Young Justice Season 1. Robin said he had started being Robin when he was nine and it was later said again by Wonder Woman. He was 13 for the majority of Season 1.

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    • Okay, given that Thomas says the episodes are all in Production Order except 3 (Origins is the origin story, so those are chronologically first, and the other one is the Christmas Special, which was meant to happen later in the story). Also, given school starts in April in Miraculous (First Ladyblog entry, as seen in the episode Origins part 2, has the date of April 19) we need to kind of shift episodes around to fit.

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    • Tycio wrote:
      One point worth observing: having a 10th grade history book doesn't necessarily mean that you're in the 10th grade or ~15 years old. It is possible to be skipped ahead to higher level courses if you are smarter, or to take courses from previous grades.

      Many people in my class study year 10 maths when we are in year 9, Alix could be turning 15 because she had to repeat a year.

      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. 

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!! marinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year.



      If I am correct then their star signs would be Libra and Aquarius.

      Marinette as the Aquarian makes sense, as an Air sign she is intelligent and aquarius are also knows to be odd and quirky which is sometimes how she acts.                                 'Though their natural intelligence, fair mindedness and (great) wit often wins them a wide circle of eclectic friends'. Aquarius also are know to fall for people really hard, the posters are more than enough proof and she's liked adrien ever since the origins episode. She makes her crush super obvious to all her girl friends accidentally just by the way she acts. Marinette states in what she wants in a family with adrien is a family and a house, a dog, a cat and a hamster said in the episode Frozer, what she wants seems very final. In chamelon to add to the list she says she also wants three kids.

      Adrien as the Libran would have good taste for clothes as may run in his genes as he is a model and his father is a famous designer. 'Air signs are cool, calculating, cerebral and charming. They possess a natural surface cleverness and a swift humour that make them all fantastic company. Libra is the most charming of the group.' Although he likes ladybug, you don't see him in the series obsessing over her and putting up posters of her everywhere. most people wouldn't even know about his crush besides plag his kwami. Adrien wants to, defeat hawk moth, run away with ladybug to an exotic island all by themselves and live off fruit, also he wants a pet hamster as said in the episode Frozer.


      'A Profound and Long-Lasting Combination

      Libra and Aquarius relationships are great for the world. ... The nice part about Aquarius-Libra connections is that they admire each other, they are both rebels, they get along, and they are more powerful together. as air signs they are both combatible.' 


      In Animan she reads the leos horriscope, that tecnically doesn't mean she's a leo she could've been reading a friends.                                                                                            even if I am wrong about Marinettes birthday, adriens could still be correct. Leos and Libras are also still compatible.

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    • Chaton15 wrote:
      We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.

      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. 

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!!nmarinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year

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    • Jenniferrtaylorr wrote:
      Chaton15 wrote:
      We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.
      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. 

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!!nmarinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year

      Sorry, but no September for you. School in Miraculous begins in April, as Origins happens in April (Proof? When Alya is showing Marinette the first ever post of the Ladyblog in "Origins Part 2", the date is 19 Avr, a.k.a. April 19). So, you'll have to fix the calendar.

      Also, apparently the year's 2016 currently. AND we have no idea where the Christmas Special happens in continuity, due to the fact that episode and Origins are both certainly to be produced out of chronologic order.

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    • Oh guyss why are you so panic about their age? It's probably marinette's 15 and adrien's 16... I guess... 🤔

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    • Irrespondible wrote:
      Jenniferrtaylorr wrote:
      Chaton15 wrote:
      We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.
      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. jeremy zag or tom austruc.

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!!nmarinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year

      Sorry, but no September for you. School in Miraculous begins in April, as Origins happens in April (Proof? When Alya is showing Marinette the first ever post of the Ladyblog in "Origins Part 2", the date is 19 Avr, a.k.a. April 19). So, you'll have to fix the calendar.

      Also, apparently the year's 2016 currently. AND we have no idea where the Christmas Special happens in continuity, due to the fact that episode and Origins are both certainly to be produced out of chronologic order.

      I'm going off what one of the creators said their birthday was and was finding evidence, either jeremy zag or tom austruc, i saw a post about it before.

      also april happens in the first half of the year and surely marinette would have written down his birthday on her calender or his schedule, I didn't make the calender marinette did in the episode copycat she pulls it down.

      also I'm going off the wikipage that contains lot's of information found by many different people, the episode order is layed out that way.

      If marinette went to school early and adrien hasnt had his 15th birthday in that same year yet it would explain why alix turned 15 in timebreaker.

      you could come up with another more believable theory instead of saying how mine doesn't make sense when i think it makes complete sense and so do a lot of people who keep up with jeremy zag and tom austucs interviews

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    • Jenniferrtaylorr wrote:
      Irrespondible wrote:
      Jenniferrtaylorr wrote:
      Chaton15 wrote:
      We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.
      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. jeremy zag or tom austruc.

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!!nmarinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year

      Sorry, but no September for you. School in Miraculous begins in April, as Origins happens in April (Proof? When Alya is showing Marinette the first ever post of the Ladyblog in "Origins Part 2", the date is 19 Avr, a.k.a. April 19). So, you'll have to fix the calendar.

      Also, apparently the year's 2016 currently. AND we have no idea where the Christmas Special happens in continuity, due to the fact that episode and Origins are both certainly to be produced out of chronologic order.

      I'm going off what one of the creators said their birthday was and was finding evidence, either jeremy zag or tom austruc, i saw a post about it before.

      also april happens in the first half of the year and surely marinette would have written down his birthday on her calender or his schedule, I didn't make the calender marinette did in the episode copycat she pulls it down.

      also I'm going off the wikipage that contains lot's of information found by many different people, the episode order is layed out that way.

      If marinette went to school early and adrien hasnt had his 15th birthday in that same year yet it would explain why alix turned 15 in timebreaker.

      you could come up with another more believable theory instead of saying how mine doesn't make sense when i think it makes complete sense and so do a lot of people who keep up with jeremy zag and tom austucs interviews

      When I said that, was that you needed to fix the part of Origins, which was the only one that didn't fit. You mentioned School begins in September, and that's fine, but there's the issue that Origins, according to the Ladyblog's first chronological appearance (Alya shows it to Marinette in Origins part 2) happens in April (the post even says April 19, giving us a date for Origins part 1 and 2). Thus, some episodes should be moved around.

      Also, apparently Marinette's birthday is not in January, but in October. Clues:

      -Must happen after Volpina/The Collector. According to Marinette in "Chameleon", the eventos of these episodes are right after Summer break, which goes from mid-July to early September in France.

      -In "Ladybug", Adrien is seen presenting his father the gift she made for Marinette's birthday and even mentions that she made the hat he wore in the Fashion Week. This not only puts Befana after Style Queen/Queen Wasp (the episodes happen during the fashion week), but also puts the episode at least in October (Paris' Fashion Week is the week from the last days of September to the first days of October and it's hinted that not much time has passed since then).

      -ONE MORE THING! Feast gives a year to the disappearance of the temple and its return that dates the events of said episode to 2016. Therefore, unless some events happened in 2014, the time is much shorter than expected.

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    • Jenniferrtaylorr wrote:

      Chaton15 wrote:
      We know their ages now: Marinette was 13 in Season 1, and she turned 14 in Befana (episode 4 of Season 2). Adrien was confirmed to have turned 14 in Bubbler, ...which means he's probably almost a year older than her, I'd guess. Anyway, that's what Gabriel said in Gorizilla.

      Adrien is 14 as said by his dad in gorzilla and in befana it says marinette is 14,

      Adriens birthday happened in season 1 and marinettes in season 2,

      also in one of the episodes marinette pulls down a half year calender (for adrien), going from january to june, but all the writting is written in french if someone translates it and theres no birthday written on it then, his birthday is in the second half of the year. (which is most likely because !!french start school in september!! and his birthday was one of the first episodes)(also there were no cakes or candles drawn on the calender, as it also had lots of drawings next to the words)

      Another source says that adriens birthday is the september 25th and marinettes is january 27th. 

      Adrien also recieved a scarf from thoughtful marinette, if his birthday is in fact in september then it would have been autumn (fall), for them at that time.

      Befana also happens after the christmas special. January is the month after Christmas (duh)

      If this is true marinettes birthday is a year after his and it states in a website that 14 year olds would have been born in 2005, so most likely

      !!! adriens birthdate is september 25th 2004 !!!

      !!!nmarinettes birthdate is january 27th 2005 !!!

      adrien will turn 15 again in september the same year

      Astruc said on tweeter that adrien birthday is on the marinette adrien schedule so his birthday can only be from january to june their is one date the 14 may with a heart but no text it is i think to indicate adrien birthday

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    • If Marinette is from 13 to 14... yeah, she can't be born in 2005, given that Feat, due to year mentions, happens in 2016, not in 2019.

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    • I have just looked on a French site about the personality in regards of your zodiac signs and if Adrien is taurus ( born the 14 may) and Marinette libra born in October it is exactly their personnality

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    • In Ikari Gozen Marinette says that her Zodiac sign is the snake, meaning she was born in 2001. If the events of the show are happening in 2016, this means that Marinette is 15 years old

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    • Okay, according to Wikipedia, Befana should had been after October 7, the end of that year's Paris Fashion Week (if Mari is 15 as of Feast, that is; if she's still 14, we're screwed) and had to be likely nearby.

      Now, if she was 14 as of Feast, we're screwed because in 2016, where La Befana should take place if Mari is 14 in Feast, the Fashion Week was in March. That is a significant difference.

      Still, I'm certain that last one is not the case because I'm certain it was autumn in Befana, so not March.

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    • Okay, apparently Thomas confirmed that currently in the series Marinette is 15, which is fine.

      And yes, confirmed the thing in Ikari Gozen, so the year of the series as of Ladybug is 2016 and Marinette's 15.

      Also, Adrien must be 15 as well, otherwise, he would be too old for collegé.

      That means Alix was probably held back, as she was 15 back in Season 1's "Timebreaker".

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    • If you read that Thomas Astruc wrote in a subordinate clause of a 15-year-old girl, you should bear in mind that he is currently writing the episodes of seasons 4 and 5. Maybe Marinette will be 15 years old at some point.

      But not yet. She had her 14th birthday in "Befana". Only a few months have passed since then - but in any case less than a year.

      From where I know this? Now that only a few months have passed since Ladybug and Cat Noir arrived, we know of Alya in "Feast". In addition, Thomas Astruc has already confirmed this in advance. On the direct question, "it could be said that at least one year passed since both Adrien and Marinette got theirs Miracoulus?", he responded with "Nope." See link:

      https://twitter.com/rodricam85/status/1152646056360009728

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    • Wasn’t Marinette 13 or 14 in Befana????

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    • JustAAnotherGirl wrote:
      Wasn’t Marinette 13 or 14 in Befana????

      "Befana" was her 14th birthday. Confirmed by both the cake, her Chinese zodiac sign being snake, as mentioned by her in "Ikari Gozen", and the fact that "Feast" dated itself in 2016 due to a combination of ages thrown in (thus, the entire series began in 2015 and is now entering 2016.

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    • Irrespondible wrote:

      JustAAnotherGirl wrote:
      Wasn’t Marinette 13 or 14 in Befana????

      "Befana" was her 14th birthday. Confirmed by both the cake, her Chinese zodiac sign being snake, as mentioned by her in "Ikari Gozen", and the fact that "Feast" dated itself in 2016 due to a combination of ages thrown in (thus, the entire series began in 2015 and is now entering 2016.

      Thanks. I was rewatching season 1 the other day and noticed that Alix was turning 15 in Timebreaker. Was this a mistake or is there something about high schools in France I don’t know about?

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    • JustAAnotherGirl wrote:

      Irrespondible wrote:

      JustAAnotherGirl wrote:
      Wasn’t Marinette 13 or 14 in Befana????
      "Befana" was her 14th birthday. Confirmed by both the cake, her Chinese zodiac sign being snake, as mentioned by her in "Ikari Gozen", and the fact that "Feast" dated itself in 2016 due to a combination of ages thrown in (thus, the entire series began in 2015 and is now entering 2016.
      Thanks. I was rewatching season 1 the other day and noticed that Alix was turning 15 in Timebreaker. Was this a mistake or is there something about high schools in France I don’t know about?

      They are not in high school, they are in junior high. That's what "collegé" means in French (fyi, Highschool in french is "Lyceé". The mention of 10th grade in "Pharaoh" is a mistake, they are in 9th.

      Thing is, in France, "Collegé" includes 6th to 9th.

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    • Irrespondible wrote:

      JustAAnotherGirl wrote:

      Irrespondible wrote:

      JustAAnotherGirl wrote:
      Wasn’t Marinette 13 or 14 in Befana????
      "Befana" was her 14th birthday. Confirmed by both the cake, her Chinese zodiac sign being snake, as mentioned by her in "Ikari Gozen", and the fact that "Feast" dated itself in 2016 due to a combination of ages thrown in (thus, the entire series began in 2015 and is now entering 2016.
      Thanks. I was rewatching season 1 the other day and noticed that Alix was turning 15 in Timebreaker. Was this a mistake or is there something about high schools in France I don’t know about?

      They are not in high school, they are in junior high. That's what "collegé" means in French (fyi, Highschool in french is "Lyceé". The mention of 10th grade in "Pharaoh" is a mistake, they are in 9th.

      Thing is, in France, "Collegé" includes 6th to 9th.

      Oh... Thanks, I was getting confused about that

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    • The events of the series so far have occured in the same year - the Kwamis had supposedly started showing up earlier that year (See Miraculer - season 3 episode 25). This means that they are all however old they were in the last birthday episode they each had. I can't find information that states otherwise, so I'm going to assume that they don't have the strange split thing where if you are born in the second half of the year, you are in a different grade (See Australian schooling). This means that they all share the same birth year. Seeing as Marinette states her zodiac is the Snake Zodiac (See Ikari Gozen - Season 3 Episode 16) some research indicates potential birth years. The most logical section of the zodiac, assuming that the series is set in the current day, Marinette would have to be born between 24th January 2001 and 11th February 2002. Basic maths would indicate that Marinette should be between 17 and 18 years old. However, because all events have occured in one year, placing the in-universe year at 2015, that would make Marinette 13-14 years old. Following the above logic, all characters withing Marinette's class should be of the same age range. Note that Kagami is not in Marinette's class, which means that following the same research pattern, she could be anywhere from one year to a few days away from Marinette's age.

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    • Okay... let's gather all the clues:

      - Marinette is 14, as that's her last birthday stated in Befana.

      - Befana happened after Style Queen/Queen Wasp, as Adrien mentions in a flashback to that day thoese events when he hasks permission to his father to got to Marinette's birthday.

      - This last point puts Befana around October, as the Fashion Week, the event that actually was being used as background of the Queens' Battle, tends to be the last days of September and early days of October. Befana happening after that puts the episode in that month. And it has to be in 2015, so the whole "Fashion Week" thing moved to March during 2016, meaning it would be impossible to be put in there.

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    • I'm pretty sure that Marinette was 13 years old when the show started, regardless if she received a Miraculous or not, being a teenager with a Miraculous is still young so we can't use that excuse.

      season 2, marinette turned 14 in befana stated from her father.

      season 3, marinette is 15.

      just too make everyone clear as well, luka is 17, he's 2! years older than juleka.

      Oh, and i remember reading somewhere that marinettes birthday is somewhere in July.

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    • Remember, everyone: Being 15 means they had to repeat a grade, because they are in Junior High. Collége is Junior high and the last year of elementary.

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