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    • Marc will get the Goat Miraculous due to his Reverser form. Much like Ziggy, Reverser's color basically consists of black and white. The side of his face that is black is similar to the black spot around the kwami's eye. His hood with those sharp edges look similar to a goeats ears and horns much how Evillustarto's hairl ooks like crown feathers of Orikko.

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      I also hope very much that Marc gets the Goat Miraculous, but although there seems to be a set of simularities between the layout of Reverser and Ziggy, nothing guarantees it. And neither is there a guarantee for the powers which I hope be the reversed powers of Reverser, hence the included picture with a name suggestion, nl Energizer. I wondered about a suitable name, saw this pic at the Cat Blanc discussion. Thought it fitted well.

      the power "Energize in my imagination would give the other Miraculous wielders the energy to use their power more then once, for instance Chat Noir could then use Cataclism several times, before changing back an recharging Plagg.

      Would be exciting to see a smallish, rather weedy kid into a living powerbattery.

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    • Kamion53 wrote:
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      I also hope very much that Marc gets the Goat Miraculous, but although there seems to be a set of simularities between the layout of Reverser and Ziggy, nothing guarantees it. And neither is there a guarantee for the powers which I hope be the reversed powers of Reverser, hence the included picture with a name suggestion, nl Energizer. I wondered about a suitable name, saw this pic at the Cat Blanc discussion. Thought it fitted well.

      the power "Energize in my imagination would give the other Miraculous wielders the energy to use their power more then once, for instance Chat Noir could then use Cataclism several times, before changing back an recharging Plagg.

      Would be exciting to see a smallish, rather weedy kid into a living powerbattery.

      As fair as powers, I don't think that is entirely the case. In this case The Goat (or in the sheep depending on the region) is synonymous with sleep, dreams or really anything to do with the mind. So I believe that the powers of this miraculous give the user either one of three things:

      Hypnosis: Put their enemy in hypnotic or dreamlike state

      Telekenisis and/or Telepathy: Out manuvers an enemy

      Balance: Powers similar to Reverser, but the exact opposite. 

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    • Jellygirl313 wrote:

      As fair as powers, I don't think that is entirely the case. In this case The Goat (or in the sheep depending on the region) is synonymous with sleep, dreams or really anything to do with the mind. So I believe that the powers of this miraculous give the user either one of three things:

      Hypnosis: Put their enemy in hypnotic or dreamlike state

      Telekenisis and/or Telepathy: Out manuvers an enemy

      Balance: Powers similar to Reverser, but the exact opposite.

      I actually cannot find a direct assosiaction with the Goat/Sheep in Chines mythology like the calibre of the Monkey with the Monkey King Sun Wukong or the Pig with Zhu Bajie( a kind of Chinese Trickster) and there are so many astrology sites, which all tell you something different, so it is very hard to say what the associations will be ZAGTOONS will connect with the Goat-kwami. With the Monkey they took a big leave from the Monkey King book and it created a stable character ( Kim was a clown from the start anyway). I did not read sleep or dreams anywhere, but being helpfull came across several times.

      Therefor I think Hypnosis and Telekenisis are out, but I settle with Balance, comes close to my Energize.

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    • Kamion53 wrote:

      Jellygirl313 wrote:

      As fair as powers, I don't think that is entirely the case. In this case The Goat (or in the sheep depending on the region) is synonymous with sleep, dreams or really anything to do with the mind. So I believe that the powers of this miraculous give the user either one of three things:

      Hypnosis: Put their enemy in hypnotic or dreamlike state

      Telekenisis and/or Telepathy: Out manuvers an enemy

      Balance: Powers similar to Reverser, but the exact opposite.

      I actually cannot find a direct assosiaction with the Goat/Sheep in Chines mythology like the calibre of the Monkey with the Monkey King Sun Wukong or the Pig with Zhu Bajie( a kind of Chinese Trickster) and there are so many astrology sites, which all tell you something different, so it is very hard to say what the associations will be ZAGTOONS will connect with the Goat-kwami. With the Monkey they took a big leave from the Monkey King book and it created a stable character ( Kim was a clown from the start anyway). I did not read sleep or dreams anywhere, but being helpfull came across several times.

      Therefor I think Hypnosis and Telekenisis are out, but I settle with Balance, comes close to my Energize.

      I still think hypnosis could work. Rember, sheep are the universal animal for sleep.

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    • Jellygirl313 wrote:

      I still think hypnosis could work. Rember, sheep are the universal animal for sleep.

      First time I hear about that and counting sheep to fall asleep doesn't count as universal.

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    • I think Marc will be the one with the goat miraculous and I have a theory on its power

      Ziggy Kwami of Sleep
      ⦁    Activation: Ziggy Dream Time
      ⦁    Deactivation: Ziggy Awaken
      ⦁    Power: Lullaby: Puts listener into a deep sleep when breath in a white fog produced by instrument
      ⦁    Weapon: Pan flute


      I used the fact of  sheep as symbols of sleep but also insperation of Pan and Puck

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    • If Marc is considered for a Miraculous, he'll most likely get the Goat through process of elimination, since Nathaniel is likely to get the Rooster because of his own colour scheme.

      A sleep power seems like it'd be too OP, because all the hero would need to do it use their power on the Akuma to automatically win.

      A "Lull" ability would be more likely, where the hero can slow down an opponent's perception of time, or just slow their movements in general. That, or have a "Dream Walking" ability, where the hero can enter an opponent's mind.



      If Marc does get the Goat and Nathaniel gets the Rooster (or vice versa), it'd be cool if their Miraculous could be counterpart to each other in a way.

      An idea I came up with for the Rooster is to be a "buffer" type (wielding a suona), so the Goat could be the opposite as a "debuffer" type.

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