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Félix was more an anime cliché. That's why we discarded him.

Thomas Astruc, Twitter


Félix Agreste[1] was the original version of Cat Noir that was seen in the Ladybug PV. He was replaced by Adrien Agreste in the main series.

Appearance

Physical Appearance

Félix was tall with pale blonde, combed-back hair and light blueish-gray eyes.

Civilian Attire

In civilian form, he wore a light gray long-sleeved dress shirt underneath a gray vest, a black tie, dark gray dress pants, and black dress shoes. On his right middle finger, he wore a black cat-shaped ring with green eyes and a red jewel on its forehead.

As Cat Noir

Cat Noir wore a black suit with a golden bell on his chest. He had cat ears, a cat tail, claws on his fingers, and a belt around his waist with compartments. Additionally, he wore mid-thigh high boots and a black face mask that covered his eyebrows and his nose. His sclerae were green, and his hair was messier and untamed.

For more of Félix's outfits and designs, see Félix Agreste/Designs.

Personality

Félix was serious and reserved, keeping to himself and not being openly friendly. He coldly refused Marinette's feelings towards him and he got exasperated with Plagg's troublemaking behavior, as seen when Plagg knocks books off a shelf onto him. He liked to read books and disliked his bad luck, wanting to get rid of his powers to be normal again.

However, as Cat Noir, Félix became wild, outgoing, and expressive, though still being serious and focused when it came to fighting crime. He seemed to get nicer and more optimistic in his transformed state, as well, treating Ladybug kindly in comparison to how he treated others regularly. He tried to seduce Ladybug in order to receive a kiss from her, which would rid him of the "bad luck" from the ring and remove the ring itself from his finger.[2]

Abilities

As A Civilian

Félix ignoring Marinette

Félix using his bad luck on Marinette.

The ring's bad luck affected Félix and allowed him to project it onto others, even when he wasn't transformed. For example, in a concept image, he touches a tree, with his hand surrounded by bad luck energy, causing an apple to drop on Marinette's head.

As Cat Noir

Cat Noir Black Storm and Black Hole concept art

Concept art of Black Storm and Black Hole.

The specifics of all of Félix's abilities as Cat Noir are unknown, but he appears to have had enhanced skills, such as agility, speed, and strength. His powers that he can utilize in civilian form were also probably available to use when he was transformed.

As seen in concept art in the later stages with Félix, Cat Noir had additional abilities related to his ring. He had Black Storm, where he points his ring out and releases a massive ball of dark energy, and Black Hole, where he puts his right hand on the ground and creates a small hole to capture people.

Family

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    = Female

    = Gender Unknown


Notes

  • Emilie Agreste mysteriously disappeared before the events of Season 1. In "Style Queen" and "Queen Wasp", it was revealed that she is underneath the Agreste Mansion in the same room seen in "Gorizilla", inside something resembling a coffin, in what appears to be in a comatose state.


Relationships

Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug

PV HQ (10)

Cat Noir presenting a flower to Ladybug.

Félix is immensely irked by Marinette and her crush on him. He seems aware that she likes him, but he doesn't reciprocate her interest, often responding to her by ignoring her, rejecting her invitations, and avoiding her.

When Marinette is Ladybug, Félix romantically pursues her. While trying to get a kiss to remove his powers by flirting with her, he also appears to care deeply about her. Her lack of feelings towards him is exasperating for him, not understanding why she doesn't accept a flower he brings for her. He finds her attractive, being awestruck by her as she leaps by him. When she is fighting the Mime, he watches in concern, and he talks naturally with her as they look over Paris at the end of the PV.

Plagg

In the Ladybug PV, Félix doesn't take kindly to Plagg's mischief, and he is rather impatient with him.

Quantic Kids

Quantic Kids Universe early concept

Félix viewing Marinette and Quantic Kids members as civilians from a distance.

It's unknown what Félix's relationship was like with the other Quantic Kids members by the time the idea and team members were dropped, but as seen in concept art when they're in civilian forms, he sits separately from them and Marinette, looking disinterested. When they're transformed, he looks like he gets along with them decently, grinning while with them in a drawing by Thomas Astruc.

Sightings

Episodes


Comics and books

Other


Trivia

  • Félix was a darker character that Thomas Astruc created to be Marinette's love interest and Cat Noir's alter ego, but Félix came off as an anime cliché, and no one, including Thomas, was convinced by his dynamic with Ladybug as a couple of heroes.[3] This led to the creation of an entirely new character, Adrien Agreste, to be Cat Noir.[4]
    • For a while, Thomas considered bringing Félix back at some point, but since then, he doesn't seem to have intentions to use him, eventually outright stating that Félix will never appear.[5][6][7]
      However, during Season 3, Adrien's cousin, who is also named Félix would appear in an episode of the same name, though it is unknown if the two Félixes are connected.
  • Originally, Félix was a name that fans called him without knowing his real name. In an early synopsis, his name was confirmed to be Félix, but later on, sources said it was Adrien, confusing fans. It wasn't until later that they learned that Félix had not only been Cat Noir's original civilian name, but also a separate character from Adrien.
    • He was named Félix because it means happy/lucky in Latin.[8]
      Felix Agreste concept art

      Félix's PV appearance, as showcased in the Ladybug Artbook.

  • Félix's appearance is very different from the current version of Adrien. Adrien has more casual clothing with a variety of colors, green eyes, darker skin and a less tidy hairstyle. As Cat Noir, Adrien's outfit has lower boots, gloves, and a staff for a weapon.
    • Their personalities are also different. Adrien is less reserved and much kinder in his civilian form, and he is nicer to Marinette and is her friend, but oblivious to her feelings for him.
    • As opposed to Adrien, Félix's ring cannot come off anytime unless he gets a kiss from Ladybug. In addition, while wearing the ring, Félix is cursed to have bad luck, but it is unknown if this curse or any curse affects Adrien.[2]
    • Félix's cat ears when he transforms are real, unlike Adrien's, whose cat ears are fake.
  • When the unused concept of Quantic Kids was in development, Félix was still Cat Noir, as seen in a concept art. He continued to be, even after the Quantic Kids idea was shelved.
  • If an anime or 2D version of Ladybug is made, Thomas Astruc has stated that the Cat Noir featured would probably still be Adrien, because Félix isn't a strong enough character to write for on a long term.[9]
    • This has been proven to be true, as revealed for the Miraculous Ladybug OVA.[10]
    • There are also no plans for any variation of Félix to appear in the current 3D show.[7]
  • Félix is considered to be a fanon character entirely now, having been dropped since the Toei Animation test, and not planned to ever return again.[11]
  • Felix Agreste's outfit from The Mini Menace Ladybug looks like the Marvel Comics' character Black Panther.

Gallery

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References

  1. https://twitter.com/BeMiraculousLB/status/953347465830256641 "#TransformationTuesday featuring our favorite grumpy, 2d Promotional Video boy: Felix Agreste. #MiraculousLadybug" archive
  2. 2.0 2.1 Explanation of the kissing element in older concepts (with sources) from Tumblr user miraculeusecoccinelle.
  3. Thomas has a few Twitter posts explaining this (the first and the second). Also, he posted a link to a Tumblr post by fan marblegreensreviews that expresses the reasons why he and the crew dropped Félix.
  4. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/646657309360455680
  5. https://twitter.com/OrangeRux/status/647421010296238080
  6. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/698923032044269568
  7. 7.0 7.1 https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/752991955148242944
  8. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/831445336027697152
  9. https://twitter.com/Lauren_Jay_/status/665819617282011136
  10. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/679310947933102080
  11. Miraculous Meetup on May 17, 2017, said by Wilfried Pain.

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Miraculous holders and related characters
French Miraculous superhero team

Adrien Agreste/Cat NoirMarinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug

Reoccurring Miraculous holders

Chloé Bourgeois/Queen BeeAlya Césaire/Rena RougeLuka Couffaine/ViperionMax Kanté/PegasusNino Lahiffe/CarapaceLê Chiến Kim/King Monkey

Villains

Gabriel Agreste/Hawk MothNathalie Sancoeur/Mayura

Guardians

Wang Fu

Kwamis

BarkkDaizziDuusuFluffKaalkiLonggMulloNoorooOrikkoPlaggPollenRoaarSassStomppTikkiTrixxWayzzXuppuZiggy

Previous Miraculous holders

Ancient Chinese Bee Miraculous holderAncient Chinese Butterfly Miraculous holderAncient Chinese Fox Miraculous holderAncient Chinese Ox Miraculous holderAncient Chinese Peacock Miraculous holderAncient Egyptian LadybugAncient Egyptian Miraculous holderBọ rùaCernunnosLa CoccinelleHeraklesHēi MāoHippolytaJeanne d'ArcLa MariquitaMicazoyolinMudekudekuPiáo ChóngPied Piper of HamelinSasuke SarutobiSun WukongTentomushiTomoe Gozen

Future Miraculous holders

AspikBrazilian Miraculous holderDragon BugFuture Queen BeeFuture Butterfly Miraculous holderJade TurtleAlix Kubdel/BunnyxLady NoirMister BugMultimouseMultimouse with Fox MiraculousSnake NoirKagami Tsurugi/Ryuko

Non-Miraculous superheroes
Doorman (hero)Camilla Hombee/VictoryKnightowlMajestiaSparrowUncanny ValleyUnnamed superheroes
Villains
Main villains

Gabriel Agreste/Hawk MothAkumaNathalie Sancoeur/Mayura

Akumatized villains

AnansiAnimaestroAnimanAntibugBackwarderBakerixBefanaThe BubblerCaptain HardrockCatalystChameleonChristmasterThe CollectorCopycatDarkbladeDark CupidDark OwlDespair BearDesperada • Destroyer • The EvillustratorFrightningaleFrozerGamerGigantitanGlaciatorGorizillaGuitar VillainHorrificatorIkari GozenKung FoodLady WifiMagician of MisfortuneMalediktatorThe MimeMiraculerOblivioParty CrasherThe PharaohMr. PigeonPixelatorPrime QueenPrincess FragranceThe PuppeteerOni-ChanQueen WaspReflektaRena RageReplayReverserRiposteRobostusRogercopSandboySanta ClawsSapotisShell ShockSilencerSilurusSimon SaysStoneheartStormy WeatherStyle QueenSyrenTimebreakerTroublemakerVanisherVolpinaWeredadZombizou

Other villains

Trash Krakken

Unknown and/or future villains

Apkli • Cat Blanc • Dr. Sadness • Hawk Moth (future) • Ignoblia • KwamibusterLoveaterMiracle Queen • Pain and Tears • Monsieur RatStartrainTimetaggerTrio of Punishers

Other characters
Teenagers

Miss Bustier's class (Ivan BruelJuleka CouffaineMylène HaprèleAlix KubdelNathaniel KurtzbergRose LavillantSabrina RaincomprixLila Rossi)
AdamAliMarc AncielAurore BeauréalMireille CaquetJean DuparcOndineKagami TsurugiWayhem

Children

AugustBoyElla CésaireEtta CésaireManon ChamackKenyaChris LahiffeMrs. Michelle's sonQuentin

Adults

Adrien's bodyguardEmilie AgresteArletteArt teacherThomas AstrucAugust's motherVincent AzaBanana ManThéo BarbotAndré BourgeoisAudrey BourgeoisBreakerCaline BustierButler JeanAlec CataldiMarlena CésaireNora CésaireOtis CésaireNadja ChamackSabine ChengWang ChengChris (performer)Clara ContardAnarka CouffaineMr. DamoclesArmand D'ArgencourtDoormanGina DupainRolland DupainTom DupainFire captainFishermanGhetto BlasterAndré GlacierSimon GrimaultFred HaprèleHowardJørgenKenya's fatherKillabeeMr. KubdelJalil KubdelMarianne LenoirLila's motherMaidMs. MendeleievMetal Face DMrs. MichelleClara NightingalePhilippePrince Ali's chaperonePublic EnemyRoger RaincomprixXavier RamierPenny RollingBob RothSanta ClausSarahShaolin SoulJagged StoneJean TretiensTomoe TsurugiVéroniqueVincent (Adrien's photographer)Wealthy womanXY

Animals

FangMinor animalsWhiskers

Groups

Kitty Section

Characters from the past

Darkblade (ancestor)MageOrder of the Guardians

Miscellaneous

AlbertMarkov

Future characters

Lindalee RoseSabine's motherVivica

Non-canon characters
Félix AgresteUnused Quantic Kids members (GavrocheKid MimeMelodieMercury) • Dany Boon

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