Talk:French Miraculous superhero team/@comment-36928482-20191017182137/@comment-14250-20191113210921


 * it's because Ladybug recruited Kagami as Ryuko instead of recruiting her as Queen Bee to fight off her parents when they been akumatized into Heart Hunter

What Pop0421$ highlights seems like a legitimate grievance: Ladybug insists that the reason she can't recruit Chloe was because of Hawk Moth knowing she's Queen Bee, but since HM also knew Kagami was Ryuko, that should also have prevented LB from recruiting Kagami.


 * None of this would have happened if she hadn't revealed her secret identity to the world in the first place.

But DBFan9000, regardless of how Hawk Moth came to know Chloe's identity, he also knows Kagami's, so if Marinette can ignore the exposure to recruit Kagami, she should also be able to ignore the exposure to recruit Chloe.

We did actually see this happen already in Miraculer and Chloe handled herself AMAZINGLY there, so on what grounds should Marinette shun her and favour Ryuko instead?

That said.. maybe I should actually watch the finale The Battle of the Miraculous arc, perhaps there are answers in the episode to my question.


 * the only thing she wanted to do with her superpowers was having popularity, fame and attention

I disagree with AquaAquila, if that's all Chloe wanted then in both instances she had the Bee Miraculous (in Style Queen, then Miraculer) she could have simply refused to give it back to Ladybug.

I think she wanted the approval of her hero Ladybug more than these things. Think about how her and Sabrina cosplayed in private. That had nothing at all to do with attention/fame/popularity. She idolized her heroine until her heroine betrayed her a 3rd time and refused to acknowledge her improvements.


 * heroes are suppose to save the day without wanting something back

Who says Chloe wanting to be popular is all about her? She knows that heroes can inspire people: Ladybug inspires her. She probably just wants to inspire people as well, which is a benefit to THEM.

Ladybug and Cat Noir DO get something back: they are both famous in their hero identities, super-agile, super-strong, etc. They are not just protecting others in the city, but their own lives as well, by stopping Akuma from destroying everything.

Chloe's main mistake was not understanding the importance of a secret identity, which is completely understandable since she found her Miraculous by chance and wasn't instructed on the importance of secrecy by Master Fu like both Marinette and Adrien were. If Fu hadn't told them to keep their identities secret, they could've easily made the same mistake.

Chloe can't un-ring that bell, just try to atone for it, and I think she showed in Miraculer she was trustworthy. Instead of trusting her, LB shunned her, so it's completely understandable why she's no longer a fan, and why she was unable to continue resisting akumatization on the subsequent attempt by HM.