Talk:Kagami Tsurugi/@comment-33455496-20171023062530/@comment-16261524-20171023225349

Astruc never said they would stay together until the end. Look at how the Legend of Korra ended: the fandom was thinking Korra/Mako, Asami/Mako or Korra/Bolin, and in the end it was Korra/Asami that won. So much character development that shows that sometimes you don't end with your first love, but it's not a bad thing either. Would be great if something like that happened in this show, like Kagami/Adrien. Marinette/Adrien is too cliché and almost forced for me to actually like it, especially with Marinette's behavior not being healthy and a great exemple to show to kids, on top of the show hardly doing anything about it except in the form of a villain, and she still goes back to square one in other episodes right after. And Nino is a nice guy, so is Nathaniel, which is why people don't mind shipping them much or hate them in contrast to Lila and Chloé who aren't nice and sympathetic characters, which I kind of find annoying of the double standard of the show. Even after everything she's done, Marinette is still shipped with Adrien, while he gets less sympathie after that one stunt in Copycat, which technically he was right about one thing: if Marinette had actually showed up instead of deciding that stealing her crush's phone to delete an embarrasing message of her declaring her love and inviting him just because she's incapable of looking and not panicking over what's she doing was more important, he wouldn't have never said those things to Théo, since she would have rebuffed him right there and then.

On the other end, I wonder if her showing up will also be the episode where we will learn of Gabriel and his wife meeting? If Adrien is smitten by Kagami and acts strange at home, maybe he'll ask to his dad what his love with his mom was like? Can't see a better episode to get that origin than the one where Adrien's new crush appears. My bet is on Riposte.