Talk:Season 4/@comment-455481-20200116223656/@comment-44099185-20200119011851

How Gabriel has done good without Lila ? His whole antic for 3 seasons was literally to throw a butterfly and hope for the best. The guy is so desperate that he akumatized Mr Pigeon for 25 times. Without Lila, he wouldn't have had his 2 Scarlet Akumas attacks and while in the first one he needed to take advantage of Lila's grudge on Ladybug for it to happen, he still needed Volpina and specifically Lila in his plan. No other villain, maybe except Evillustrator ( which we don't even know if he can draw humans ), would've been able to pull off the trick Volpina did to get the whole city vulnerable to akumatization. And we saw how well Gabriel's plan went in Cat Blanc. He almost made his son suicide and got himself and everyone in the Paris killed by Cat Blanc. So yeah, Gabriel definitely deserves a cookie for that plan ^. While Lila's plan got Ladybug herself and multiple other people akumatized, pretty much winning the war for Gabriel in half a episode, if not for Nathalie's sickness ( and Marinette'd plot armor ). And she can still fool pretty much anyone, because only Mr Damocles and Marinette's family heard her claims about her disease that makes her lie involuntarily.