Talk:Lorddance/@comment-31395652-20170226020327/@comment-28768715-20170515072712

Papillion/HawkMoth can only akumatize people with strong, negative feelings. Marinette is such an optimistic person that, even if she wasn't Ladybug, she would be very hard to akumatize. Along with that, we don't know if Miraculous holders are able to be akumatized or not.

In regards to your first question/statement, I doubt that Papillion knows- he would have sent one of the later akumas in season one, like Volpina, to pursue Marinette specially so he would get her miraculous easier.

I do believe that Gabriel Agreste is piecing together that his son and Mari are Chat Noir and Ladybug... (I have plenty of reasons to believe that Gabriel and Papillion/HawkMoth are NOT the same person, but I'm not going to dive into them right now.) Either Gabriel or Mama Agreste is/was a miraculous holder, based on the Miraculous Book that was in Gabriel's safe- along with what looks like the peacock miraculous.