Talk:Future Queen Bee/@comment-44248709-20200124032917/@comment-44248709-20200124214951

ok both of you....aquaaquila and stephon.t.doby

She blew her redemption in s2 in maledictator. this is now s4 where she signed a deal with the devil a.k.a. teaming with hawkmoth a villain member????????

All because of being told (even after LB told her that shes publicly known) she can't be a super any more for the moral reasons to keep the family and whatever pretend friends she has, she went to any measure nessecesary to become the one thing that seperates her for the commonfolk peaseants, a being acting like responsibility is her doormat with a god complex.

This is why she CANNOT be forgiven for her lies, deceit, and selfishness and must really lose it all (Friends, hero status prestige, and anything) to remind her whether she likes it or not that shes human just like everyone along with regard to better seeking character development.

Do ANY of you know what a proper redemption is (or means)

BTW i haven't seen EQG but i read about it.

Sunset shimmer had a dark moment as a bully and in the end of the movie, she changed for the better. (and maintained that change never reverting back to her evil coniving wicked ways)

Chloe (after maledictator to now) felt more entitled, didn't apologize to anyone (AT ALL) for her actions and akumatizations, acted no better to her newfound teammates who weren't Ladybug and felt like she was better than them undermining the respect for them, and actually disregarding her and her parents safety by letting words of manipulation get the better of her.

Chloe wasn't hurt by anything intentional, she just refused to embrace the unsugarcoated truth and just allied herself because it was all about her and her selfish mentality.

ALL THIS is realistic to show anyone who does this needs to be held accontable. She is not heroism, it's the opposite of heroism and perfectly describes chloe's clear nature. (same said for lila rossi, nathelie, and gabriel) Shes more worthless than ever before and this officially declares her tears in maledictator as fake crocodile tears trying to earn sympathy points but now it won't now.....or ever.

It's over.