Talk:Season 4/@comment-455481-20200116223656/@comment-38698074-20200118223229

> Riposte.

Partially true. But the argument kinda falls apart on it’s own when you take in mind that Adrien would had been mutilated by Riposte if he wasn’t Chat Noir and had to get out of the Coffin were Ladybug hid him.

> Punisher Trio

What? He literally let them just stop their fight against Ladybug despite having the number advantage and seek after Adrien immediately. ‘Sides, It’s very clear by Gabriel’s words before Alya, Rose and Juleka’s Akumatization that he always intended the Punisher Trio to turn against Felix to get rid of him and his mother.

> Style Queen

Totally false. The only reason why Style Queen never attacked Gabriel once was because she couldn’t find him. Hawk Moth just told her that Ladybug was protecting Gabriel and if she defeated her and Cat Noir, Gabriel would have no choice but to show himself for Adrien.

> As long as he hasn't Emilie back (likely even after that) there is every reason not to ditch Lila.

Getting an Akuma that can actually get him the Miraculouses it’s more than enough.

Lila serves as a Pawn, but Hawk Moth has done well without her for years and Chloé herself, (intentionally or not) it’s still an Akuma fabric.

There’s literally nothing that makes indispensable for Hawk Moth, she can’t fool anybody now and she has failed as both Volpina and Chameleon. She isn’t that special