Talk:Marinette Dupain-Cheng/@comment-31306114-20170923181308/@comment-28350402-20170924222710

Frankly, there's been a lot of debate over this, so I'm not going to rehash it. As for not knowing the "real" him, I'm going to have to disagree. It's only the first season, after all.

If anyone cares to note, she really didn't care about his popularity, given she thought he put gum on her seat and was friends with Chloe. And if you watched some of the web episodes, she admits she would have given Chat a chance if Adrien hadn't won her heart first. Ironic? Sure. But somehow, someone manages to find something wrong with her anyway.

As for Adrien not his real self in civilian form, I'm going to have disagree there too. He is still himself in both forms. Adrien's not faking anything in his civilian form. Repressed, yes. Faking, no. There's a difference. Being Chat Noir allows him to be unrestrained, but he's still Adrien. And honestly, I don't know where this concept that Adrien has to live up to an image of perfection came from.

It's fine if you don't like Marinette. But her complexity is there when it's not so blatant and openly expressed. Look at the actions she does in between the moments and something's there.