Talk:Miracle Queen (The Battle of the Miraculous - Part 2)/@comment-37502593-20191017003733/@comment-2037317-20191017195746

Actually... Chloe never redeemed herself by becoming Queen Bee. She haven't yet reached her Heel-Face Turn. Just like Lila, she was only good to try and get in Ladybug's graces because she loves being Queen Bee. When Ladybug told her it was too risky, she began to try and boast in order to have her chance back. But when she felt betrayed is when things took a darker turn for her. In fact, she may be showing us what will happen once Lila gets caught in her lies and Adrien removes her trust: She'll speed right through the dark lane, maybe even faster than Chloe.

Also, the reason they made all this mess was to advance another character who, so far, had absolutely no actual character growth:

Marinette Dupain-Cheng.

Yes, I'll go right away and say that Marinette herself didn't grow despite her increased powers and so on. She keeps relying on her feelings more than anything. She keeps making mistakes for not keeping a clear head. She keeps being only thoughtful when it's something she knows what the source is (Akumas/Amoks) and she keeps risking the life of others for not properly thinking (she caused as many akumatizations as Chloe, even being the one that caused all of Chloe's akumatizaions herself).

For example: SHE WILLINGLY BECAME SABRINA 2/MINI CHLOE TO TRY TO SEPARATE KAGAMI AND ADRIEN! IN THIS SAME SEASON!! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, THAT'S A HORRIBLE CHARACTER ROUTE!!!