Talk:Season 5/@comment-44407024-20191128041517/@comment-44480665-20191202003749

@ TheKwamiLover: In "Miracle Queen" Mayura has captured the pad of Master Fu - with the deciphered Grimoire. That's why Gabriel Agreste was able to repair the Peacock-Miraculous. So the evil side may now know all the secrets of the miraculouses - maybe the recipes for the upgrade potions as well. Surely they will know about "Unify" - Gabriel Agreste can then transform to "Hawk Mayura". Certainly the supervillains are getting stronger.

If Marinette doesn't have a copy of the deciphered Grimoires (there is no information if Master Fu gave it to her), then the situation for Marinette / Ladybug becomes almost hopeless. Her enemies are getting stronger as she runs out of potions, and she can't mix new ones.

However, we have seen in "Timetagger" that Marinette is Ladybug when she's grown. And Gabriel Agreste is no longer Hawk Moth at the time. That means Marinette will somehow manage to keep the Miracle Box and its valuable content. However, there will be a new Hawk Moth, so Marinette will not been able to conquer the butterfly miraculous. Maybe Gabiel Agreste threw it away on the run - like a murderer his gun. And maybe the finder - whoever he is - will recognize the value of the butterfly brooch.

This could fit a picture that I've seen at some point- Ladybug with Gabriel Agreste at Emilie's coffin. Alone - no Mayura, no Cat Noir, so no one who could break the showdown.