Talk:Félix Graham de Vanily/@comment-27177421-20160515210428/@comment-34479129-20171121160646

I'm happy with the way it is now. I know Felix is an interesting character, as I mentioned myself, and you're right that "it would have given the show a much more serious tone and deeper formed relationship between the two main characters". But to be honest I don't see how you think the current relationship is silly. Cat Noir's love for Ladybug is unbelievably strong, and we can see he's not afraid to show it, which every now and then gives a humorous ring as he tries to make her laugh with puns and jokes but doesn't seem to know about timing. But there ​are ​serious moments: life and death even. Take the episodes Timebreaker and Dark Cupid for example; both show Chat sacrificing himself to save her, and it even cost him his life in Timebreaker. Yes, it never said that Timebreaker's victims actually ​died​ but she spoke of them in past tense, indicating they were gone. And not just there, but throughout the entire show you see how fiercely protective he is of her. That's genuine love.

Ladynoir is my favorite ship, but we can see Marinette's love for him is real even though she sees him as flawless, while Cat Noir sees Ladybug's mistakes but loves her anyway. She protects him repeatedly, and was even willing to risk the balance of the universe to save what she thought was him in Volpina. This love is anything but silly and immature; this is real.

But in the anime version, his first motivation for getting Ladybug to kiss him was only to free himself, and Marinette appeared to be just another fangirl.